Socrates and meno delay a game of golf to discuss the origins of virtue, knowledge, and the soul. Can you tell me1, socrates, whether arete is something that can be. A commentary on platos meno by jacob klein pdf, ebook read. Some steps have been taken towards hellenic rather than latinate forms for. The book was published in multiple languages including english, consists of 416 pages and is available in paperback format. Each argument and section of the dialogue is discussed in detail and with great care.
A commentary on platos meno pdf free download epdf. It s a long chapter of commentary on plato s meno, which investigates virtue. There is an unmistakable reference to meno s theory of theoretical knowledge of geometry, and also of the nature. A conversation based on platos famous meno dialogue. Virtue, practice, and perplexity in platos meno autores. In addition to the meno, the course covers jacob kleins a commentary on platos meno to download the audiofiles onto your computer. The problem of explaining the value of knowledge is perennial in philosophy, going back at least as far as platos meno. In addition to the meno, the course covers jacob kleins a commentary on platos meno. Burch guide questions for reading platos meno phil 230 70a 71d 1. Had the roles been reversed and it had been socrates who had asked meno these questions about virtue.
He shows how the intentions of both socrates and protagoras, and the specific dramatic circumstances, affect the discussion concerning the teachability of virtue. Meno is one of platos shortest but most influential dialogues. This thesis offers an analysis of platos meno, in which the greek philosopher addresses more directly than in any other dialogue the character of. Supersummary, a modern alternative to sparknotes and cliffsnotes, offers highquality study guides that feature detailed chapter summaries and analysis of major themes, characters, quotes, and essay topics. It begins as an abrupt, prepackaged debaters challenge from meno about whether virtue can be taught, and quickly becomes. The meno, one of the most widely read of the platonic dialogues, is seen afresh in this original interpretation that explores the dialogue as a theatrical presentation just as socrates s listeners would have questioned and examined their own thinking in response to the presentation, so, klein shows, should modern readers become involved in the drama of the dialo. An interpretation, lexington books klein, jacob 1965 a commentary on plato s meno, university of north carolina press scott, dominic 2006 plato s meno, cambridge university press weiss, roslyn 2001 virtue in the cave. The aim of this commentary is to make platos symposium as accessible as possible to intermediatelevel greek readers so that they may experience the joy, insight, and lasting influence that comes from reading some of the greatest works in classical antiquity in the original greek. The first edition of the novel was published in 380, and was written by plato. The aim of this commentary is to make platos meno as accessible as possible. There is an unmistakable reference to menos theory of theoretical knowledge of geometry, and also of the nature. Meno the bold numbers and letters are universal stephanus. Indeed, the phaedo s affinities in philosophical theory go not toward the socratic dialogues, but to symposium and republic. Like many of plato s early dialogues, it ends rather inconclusively.
Then he cannot have met gorgias when he was at athens. Jacob klein, a commentary on platos meno philpapers. Yet there is one little trait in the description which shows that they are present to platos mind, namely, the remark that the soul, which had seen truths in the form of the universal, cannot again return to the nature of an animal. This site is like a library, use search box in the widget to get ebook that you want. Meno, by the gods, what do you yourself say virtue is. Jun 04, 20 a conversation based on plato s famous meno dialogue. Indeed, the phaedos affinities in philosophical theory go not toward the socratic dialogues, but to symposium and republic. Believing that plato has considerable guidance to offer us in respect to the question of what virtue is, i attempt to approach his writing with considerable care and attention to the. Can you tell me, socrates, whether virtue is acquired by teaching or by practice.
Plato s meno is a socratic dialogue in which the two main speakers, socrates and meno also transliterated as menon, discuss human virtue. Commentary on platos republic the republic by plato the republic plato the republic of plato pdf the woman question in platos republic book 3 summary and analysis platos republic plato, the republic new york. The main characters of this philosophy, classics story are adeimantus, polemarchus. Jun 21, 2019 the meno offers a fine illustration of socrates argumentative methods and his search for definitions of moral concepts. Epistemic value is a kind of value possessed by knowledge, and perhaps other epistemic goods such as justification and understanding.
A major addition to the literature on the meno and necessary reading for every student of the dialogue. Platos meno plot, analysis, and commentary on virtue. Reason and persuasion, 4th edition, the free pdf version. Platos meno, offered in spring quarter 1966, has 16 sessions with tapes for all of the sessions. A major addition to the literature on the meno and necessary reading for every. Meno was a young man who was described in historical records as treacherous, eager for wealth and supremely selfconfident.
Free kindle book and epub digitized and proofread by project gutenberg. But platos meno isnt accustomed to the rigors of socratic inquiry, and so plato. Just as socratess listeners would have questioned and examined their own thinking in response to the presentation, so, klein shows, should modern readers become involved in the drama of the dialogue. Moral inquiry in plato s meno, oxford university press notes on the translation. By the 2nd century the middle platonists were producing paraphrases and summaries of platos. Platos meno greek and latin texts with facing vocabulary. This onepage guide includes a plot summary and brief analysis of meno by plato. When meno is asked to define it, he claims that it is different to the individual, i. Having read or reread most of plato for a summer reading project, i also wanted to make some time to revisit jacob klein s commentary on meno. Socrates steers the conversation to a question he thinks must be answered first. Meno, that is, the derangement of menos memory that renders him incapable not only of actually being knowledgeable. Many of the scholars in the platonic academy sought to clarify and explain platos ideas.
An interpretation, lexington books klein, jacob 1965 a commentary on platos meno, university of north carolina press scott, dominic 2006 platos meno, cambridge university press. Klein offers a linebyline commentary on the text of the meno itself that animates the characters and conversation and carefully probes each significant turn of the argument. There exists no other commentary on meno which is so thorough, sound, and enlightening. In the phaedo, as in the meno, the origin of ideas is sought for in a previous state of existence. Many platonist philosophers in the centuries following plato sought to clarify and summarise his thoughts, but it was during the roman era, that the neoplatonists, in particular, wrote many commentaries on individual dialogues of plato.
Platos meno introduces aspects of socratic ethics and platonic epistemology in a fictional dialogue that is set among important political events and cultural concerns in the last years of socrates life. The meno offers a fine illustration of socrates argumentative methods and his search for definitions of moral concepts. Chapel hill, university of north carolina press 1965. Already in the 3rd century bc, we hear of a commentary to platos timaeus being written by crantor of soli. Commentary on plato s republic the republic by plato the republic plato the republic of plato pdf the woman question in plato s republic book 3 summary and analysis plato s republic plato, the republic new york. The first part of the work is written in the socratic dialectical style and meno is reduced to confusion or aporia. Most leaders dont even know the game theyre in simon sinek at live2lead 2016 duration.
Its a long chapter of commentary on platos meno, which investigates virtue. Plato wrote meno about 385 bce, placing the events about 402 bce, when socrates was 67 years old, and about three years before he was executed for corrupting athenian youth. The bold numbers and letters are universal stephanus page numbers, which provide a common reference between different translations. The place of the meno in the series is doubtfully indicated by internal evidence. It is a line by line commentary on platos meno, and it talks broadly about other dialogues of plato. Socrates and meno delay a game of golf to discuss the origins of virtue, knowledge. Given its brevity, platos meno covers an astonishingly wide array of. The dialogue has an odd virtuegeometryvirtue structure, which tends to throw readers it throws meno. It has been identified with a kind of knowledge or wisdom, but exactly what this knowledge consists in hasnt been specified. I i i i j a commentary on platos meno 64225 commentary platos on meno jacob kleijv q6005 97 the univers. Readers of plato in general, and this extensivelymined dialogue in particular, will be aware of how high the standards have now been set for writing about plato as both literary genius and philosophical pioneer.
It begins in a way familiar from many other short platonic works. The writing of commentaries is something ive been very into lately, though mine are all about old video games and fantasy series, so it is gratifying to read one so masterful about so complex a subject. What reason does socrates give for rejecting this first definition. Abstract of the dissertation awakening platos m enon by robert charles apatow d octor o f.
Complete texts of the republic, the apology, crito, phaedo, ion, meno, the. Pdf the republic book by plato free download 416 pages. The meno, one of the most widely read of the platonic dialogues, is seen afresh in this original interpretation that explores the dialogue as a theatrical. In this commentary the author presents a reading of plato s protagoras with a special concern for the fact that the work is a dialogue. Free download or read online the republic pdf epub book.
Dominic scott has written an exemplary commentary on platos meno. Additional participants in the dialogue include one of meno s slaves and the athenian politician anytus, a prosecutor of socrates with whom meno is friendly. Home browse by subject humanities classical studies ancient philosophy platos meno. Socrates then complains that his definition is merely giving examples, and. Rascal is a term difficult to translate, according to david seal.
Can you tell me, socrates, is virtue the sort of thing you can teach someone. Socrates asks meno if he believes in the theories of empedocles, as a way of establishing theoretical premises from which we can deduce answers76 meno judges the result as sufficiently highsounding, although socrates prefers his earlier definitions so. The repulsive picture which is given of him in the anabasis of xenophon ii. Summary and analysis the education of a millennial. Download plato commentaries pdf or read plato commentaries pdf online books in pdf, epub and mobi format. Introduction iii the following monographs are philosophical commentaries devoted to meno. Also very relevant is jacob klein, a commentary on platos meno. A commentary on platos meno by jacob klein overdrive.
Guide questions for platos meno university of alberta. This article condenses kleins insights on one of the central questions the author addresses in his commentary on platos dialogue. Pharrformatted platos philebus now available as pdf and on amazon april 8, 2020 april 8, 2020 leave a comment coauthors g. It appears to attempt to determine the definition of virtue, or arete, meaning virtue in general, rather than particular virtues, such as justice or temperance. A commentary on plato s republic by kenneth quandt preface welcome to, an interactive website that presents a translation and commentary on the republic of plato, for the use of scholars and students hoping to understand this very beautiful work better and better, word by word. Click download or read online button to get plato commentaries pdf book now. The meno, one of the most widely read of the platonic dialogues, is seen afresh in this original interpretation that explores the dialogue as a theatrical presentation. Like many of platos early dialogues, it ends rather inconclusively. The commentaries of thompson the meno of plato, macmillan, 1901, bluck plato s meno, cambridge, 2010 1961 and mckirahan plato s meno, bryn mawr, 1986 were all useful. Yes, socrates had met him, but he has a bad memory, and has forgotten what gorgias said. Readers of plato in general, and this extensivelymined dialogue in particular, will be aware of how high the standards have now been set for writing about plato as both literary genius and philosophical pioneer, by taylor, cornford, vlastos and others.
Press button download or read online below and wait 20 seconds. Just as socrates s listeners would have questioned and examined their own thinking in response to the presentation, so, klein shows, should modern readers become involved in the drama of the dialogue. Jacob klein is one of the few classicists who has written both about plato and euclid, and what he has to say about color and surface that socrates uses as an example of definition in the meno is thus of great value. Pdf reading platos meno as the beginning of learning.
Then lets leave gorgias out of it, since hes not here right now. One formulation of the problem is to explain why and in what sense knowledge is valuable. Platos meno does not have the high dramatic quality characteristic of some of the other middle period 388368 b. Grimm, laura 1962 definition in platos meno, oslo university press ionescu, cristina 2007 platos meno.
Can you tell me1, socrates, whether arete is something that can. A read is counted each time someone views a publication summary such as the title, abstract, and list of authors, clicks on a figure, or views or downloads the fulltext. This thesis offers an analysis of platos meno, in which the greek philosopher addresses more directly than in any other dialogue the character of human virtue. What is his definition there, and what reasons does socrates give for. Greek and latin texts with facing vocabulary and commentary. Theaetetus, the sophist, and the statesman, also published by the university of chicago. Download pdf acommentaryonplatosprotagoras free online. Meno, a young man from thessaly, asks the elderly socrates how virtue is acquired.